2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever Wrestling Cards
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Product Details
Essentially acting as the Series 2 product for the main Topps WWE set, 2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever expands the flagship line with even more wrestlers.
Hobby boxes promise at least one autograph within the two guaranteed hits per box.
2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever Base / Inserts
Featuring more rookie and "1st NXT" options, the 2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever checklist taps into NXT, Raw and Smackdown Live to bring collectors an assortment of WWE stars. There are also parallels to locate, including Bronze (1:2 packs), Blue (#/99), Silver (#/25 - Hobby), Gold (#/10), and Red (1/1). Limited Image Variations return as a base chase.
Continuing the multi-product insert, the final 10 cards in the John Cena Tribute close out the 40-card set with the fourth installment. In addition, Finishers and Signature Moves inserts drop at a rate of two per pack.
2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever Autographs / Relics
Highlighting the past, present and future, the 2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever base Autograph cards take the primary design plus limited parallels like Blue (#/50), Silver (#/25 - Hobby), Gold (#/10), and Red (1/1).
A WWE staple, the Kiss cards are back with the top women of WWE offering actual lip stain kisses. The base and Autograph versions also have Gold (#/10) and Red (1/1) parallels.
Other memorabilia inserts found in the set include Royal Rumble 2017 Mat Relics and NXT TakeOver: San Antonio 2017 Mat Relics, along with Shirt Relics and Dual Relics, which pair wrestler-worn shirt swatches with event-used mat relics. Lastly, we have the manufactured Championship Medallion Relics for the title-holders. The relic inserts also offer Bronze (#/99), Blue (#/25), Silver (#/25 ), Gold (#/10), Red (1/1) and Autograph versions.
Release Date: 11/01/2017
Product Configuration: 7 cards per pack, 24 packs per box, 12 boxes per case
2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever Hobby Box Break
- 1 Autograph
- 1 Additional Hit
- 48 Finishers & Signature Moves Inserts
- 12 Bronze Base Parallels
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Set Checklist
2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever Checklist
Base Set Checklist
102 Brie Bella - WWE
103 Jerry "The King" Lawler - WWE
104 Akira Tozawa - Raw
105 Alicia Fox - Raw
106 Apollo Crews - Raw
107 Ariya Daivari - Raw
108 Harley Race - Legends
109 Big Show - Raw
110 Bo Dallas - Raw
111 Braun Strowman - Raw
112 Bray Wyatt - Raw
113 Cesaro - Raw
114 Charly Caruso - Raw
115 Curt Hawkins - Raw
116 Curtis Axel - Raw
117 Dana Brooke - Raw
118 Darren Young - Raw
119 Dean Ambrose - Raw
120 Emma - Raw
121 Jeff Hardy - Raw
122 Goldust - Raw
123 Heath Slater - Raw
124 JoJo - Raw
125 Kalisto - Raw
126 Kurt Angle - Raw
127 Mark Henry - Raw
128 Matt Hardy - Raw
129 Mickie James - Raw
130 Neville - Raw
131 R-Truth - Raw
132 Rhyno - Raw
133 Roman Reigns - Raw
134 Sasha Banks - Raw
135 Seth Rollins - Raw
136 Sheamus - Raw
137 Summer Rae - Raw
138 Aiden English - SmackDown
139 Baron Corbin - SmackDown
140 Becky Lynch - SmackDown
141 Charlotte Flair - SmackDown
142 Daniel Bryan - SmackDown
143 Dolph Ziggler - SmackDown
144 Epico - SmackDown
145 Erick Rowan - SmackDown
146 Fandango - SmackDown
147 James Ellsworth - SmackDown
148 Jey Uso - SmackDown
149 Jimmy Uso - SmackDown
150 Jinder Mahal - SmackDown
152 Konnor - SmackDown
153 Lana - SmackDown
154 Naomi - SmackDown
155 Natalya - SmackDown
156 Nikki Bella - SmackDown
157 Primo - SmackDown
158 Rusev - SmackDown
159 Sami Zayn - SmackDown
160 Shinsuke Nakamura - SmackDown
161 Sin Cara - SmackDown
162 Tyler Breeze - SmackDown
163 Viktor - SmackDown
164 Akam - NXT
165 Aleister Black - NXT
166 Andrade "Cien" Almas - NXT
167 Angelo Dawkins - NXT
168 Buddy Murphy - NXT
169 Drew McIntyre - NXT
170 Elias - Raw
171 Kassius Ohno - NXT
172 Killian Dain - NXT
173 Abbey Laith - NXT
174 Lacey Evans - NXT
175 Mandy Rose - NXT
176 No Way Jose - NXT
177 Rezar - NXT
178 Ruby Riot - NXT
179 Sawyer Fulton - NXT
180 Wesley Blake - NXT
181 Alundra Blayze - Legends
182 Andre the Giant - Legends
183 Bret "Hit Man" Hart - Legends
184 British Bulldog - Legends
185 Bruno Sammartino - Legends
186 Dusty Rhodes - Legends
187 Edge - Legends
188 Jake "The Snake" Roberts - Legends
189 Lex Luger - Legends
190 "Macho Man" Randy Savage - Legends
191 "Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase - Legends
192 Mr. Perfect - Legends
193 "Ravishing" Rick Rude - Legends
194 Rowdy Roddy Piper - Legends
195 Shawn Michaels - Legends
196 Sting - Legends
197 Stone Cold Steve Austin - Legends
198 Trish Stratus - Legends
199 Ultimate Warrior - Legends
200 Wendi Richter - Legends
Base Image Variations Checklist
104 Akira Tozawa - Both arms up
109 Big Show - Red/White/Blue singlet
111 Braun Strowman - Leg up
112 Bray Wyatt - Only left side visible
113 Cesaro - In air
119 Dean Ambrose - In air
129 Mickie James - Pink/gray top
130 Neville - In air
134 Sasha Banks - Crouched
135 Seth Rollins - Both arms up
140 Becky Lynch - In action
142 Daniel Bryan - Both arms up
143 Dolph Ziggler - In air
151 Kevin Owens - Red/White/Blue "KO" shirt
154 Naomi - In air
155 Natalya - Both arms up
158 Rusev - Hair up
161 Sin Cara - In air
Autographs Set Checklist
102 Brie Bella - WWE
104 Akira Tozawa - Raw
105 Alicia Fox - Raw
106 Apollo Crews - Raw
110 Bo Dallas - Raw
111 Braun Strowman - Raw
112 Bray Wyatt - Raw
113 Cesaro - Raw
116 Curtis Axel - Raw
119 Dean Ambrose - Raw
120 Emma - Raw
121 Jeff Hardy - Raw
123 Heath Slater - Raw
126 Kurt Angle - Raw
128 Matt Hardy - Raw
134 Sasha Banks - Raw
136 Sheamus - Raw
140 Becky Lynch - SmackDown
151 Kevin Owens - SmackDown
154 Naomi - SmackDown
156 Nikki Bella - SmackDown
159 Sami Zayn - SmackDown
160 Shinsuke Nakamura - SmackDown
161 Sin Cara - SmackDown
163 Viktor - SmackDown
165 Aleister Black - NXT
169 Drew McIntyre - NXT
171 Kassius Ohno - NXT
172 Killian Dain - NXT
174 Lacey Evans - NXT
178 Ruby Riot - NXT
189 Lex Luger - Legends
R-8 Stephanie McMahon - Raw
Daniel Bryan Autograph / Relic Set Checklist
Daniel Bryant Relic
Daniel Bryan Autograph Relic
Triple Autographs Set Checklist
Bray Wyatt / Randy Orton / Luke Harper
Seth Rollins / Roman Reigns / Dean Ambrose
Undertaker / Brock Lesnar / Goldberg
Undertaker / Kane / Daniel Bryan
Commemorative Championship Medallion Set Checklist
Aiden English - NXT Tag Team Championship
American Alpha - NXT Tag Team Championship
Asuka - NXT Women's Championship
Bayley - NXT Women's Championship
Blake & Murphy - NXT Tag Team Championship
Bobby Roode - NXT Championship
Finn Bálor - NXT Championship
Kevin Owens - NXT Championship
Neville - WWE Cruiserweight Championship
Sami Zayn - NXT Championship
Samoa Joe - NXT Championship
Sasha Banks - NXT Women's Championship
Shinsuke Nakamura - NXT Championship
The Authors of Pain - NXT Tag Team Championship
The Brian Kendrick - WWE Cruiserweight Championship
The Revival - NXT Tag Team Championship
TJ Perkins - WWE Cruiserweight Championship
Shirt Relics Set Checklist
Andrade "Cien" Almas - NXT
Becky Lynch - SmackDown
Big Show - Raw
Brock Lesnar - Raw
Charlotte Flair - SmackDown
Curtis Axel - Raw
Darren Young - Raw
John Cena - SmackDown
JoJo - Raw
Naomi - SmackDown
Natalya - SmackDown
No Way Jose - NXT
Sasha Banks - Raw
Seth Rollins - Raw
Sheamus - Raw
Sting - Legend
Summer Rae - Raw
Autographed Shirt Relics Set Checklist
Becky Lynch - SmackDown
Big Show - Raw
Charlotte Flair - SmackDown
Curtis Axel - Raw
JoJo - Raw
Kevin Owens - Raw
Natalya - SmackDown
Sasha Banks - Raw
Seth Rollins - Raw
Sheamus - Raw
Sting - Legends
Summer Rae - Raw
Dual Relics Set Checklist
Bayley - Royal Rumble 2017
Bobby Roode - NXT TakeOver: San Antonio
Bray Wyatt - Royal Rumble 2017
Brock Lesnar - Royal Rumble 2017
Charlotte Flair - Royal Rumble 2017
John Cena - Royal Rumble 2017
Nikki Bella - Royal Rumble 2017
Randy Orton - Royal Rumble 2017
Shinsuke Nakamura - NXT TakeOver: San Antonio
Dual Autograph Relics Set Checklist
Bayley - Royal Rumble 2017
Bobby Roode - NXT TakeOver: San Antonio
Bray Wyatt - Royal Rumble 2017
Charlotte Flair - Royal Rumble 2017
John Cena - Royal Rumble 2017
Nikki Bella - Royal Rumble 2017
Randy Orton - Royal Rumble 2017
Shinsuke Nakamura - NXT TakeOver: San Antonio
Kiss Cards Set Checklist
Asuka - NXT
Becky Lynch - WWE
Billie Kay - NXT
Charlotte Flair - WWE
Ember Moon - NXT
Liv Morgan - NXT
Peyton Royce - NXT
Autographed Kiss Cards Set Checklist
Asuka - NXT
Becky Lynch - WWE
Billie Kay - NXT
Charlotte Flair - WWE
Ember Moon - NXT
Liv Morgan - NXT
Mickie James - WWE
Nikki Bella - WWE
Petyon Royce - NXT
NXT TakeOver: San Antonio 2017 Mat Relics Set Checklist
Asuka
Billie Kay
Bobby Roode
Eric Young
Peyton Royce
Rezar
Roderick Strong
Shinsuke Nakamura
Tye Dillinger
NXT TakeOver: San Antonio 2017 Mat Relic Autographs Set Checklist
Billie Kay
Bobby Roode
Eric Young
Peyton Royce
Roderick Strong
Shinsuke Nakamura
Royal Rumble 2017 Mat Relics Set Checklist
Bayley
Braun Strowman
Bray Wyatt
Brock Lesnar
Charlotte Flair
Chris Jericho
Goldberg
John Cena
Karl Anderson
Luke Gallows
Naomi
Neville
Nia Jax
Nikki Bella
Randy Orton
Rich Swann
Roman Reigns
Undertaker
Royal Rumble 2017 Mat Relic Autographs Set Checklist
Braun Strowman
Bray Wyatt
Charlotte Flair
Chris Jericho
Goldberg
Karl Anderson
Kevin Owens
Naomi
Neville
Nia Jax
Nikki Bella
Randy Orton
Roman Reigns
Undertaker
Daniel Bryan Tribute (Part 4) Set Checklist
31 Daniel Bryan - Wins the WWE World Heavyweight Championship
32 Daniel Bryan - Defeats Kane in an Extreme Rules Match
33 Daniel Bryan - Returns to WWE
34 Daniel Bryan - Defeats Kane in a Casket Match
35 Daniel Bryan - Defeats Seth Rollins for the Number One Contendership
Value Box
36 Daniel Bryan - Wins the Intercontinental Championship
37 Daniel Bryan - Retains the Intercontinental Championship Against Dolph Ziggler
38 Daniel Bryan - Teams with John Cena to Defeat Cesaro & Tyson Kidd
39 Daniel Bryan - Announces his Retirement
40 Daniel Bryan - Becomes the SmackDown LIVE General Manager
Finishers and Signature Moves Set Checklist
F-2 John Cena - STF
F-3 Brock Lesnar - F-5
F-4 Brock Lesnar - Kimura Lock
F-5 Goldberg - Jackhammer
F-6 Goldberg - Spear
F-7 The Rock - Rock Bottom
F-8 The Rock - The People's Elbow
F-9 Triple H - Pedigree
F-10 Randy Orton - RKO
F-11 Undertaker - Tombstone
F-12 Undertaker - Last Ride
F-13 Undertaker - Hell's Gate
F-14 Kane - Chokeslam
F-15 Big Show - KO Punch
F-16 Big Show - Chokeslam
F-17 Chris Jericho - The Codebreaker
F-18 Chris Jericho - The Walls of Jericho
F-19 Chris Jericho - The Lionsault
F-20 Daniel Bryan - "Yes!" Lock
F-21 Mick Foley - Mandible Claw
F-22 Mick Foley - Double Arm DDT
F-23 Booker T - Axe Kick
F-24 AJ Styles - Phenomenal Forearm
F-25 AJ Styles - Styles Clash
F-27 Finn Bálor - Coup de Grâce
F-28 Finn Bálor - 1916
F-29 The Miz - Skull-Crushing Finale
F-30 The Miz - Figure-Four Leglock
F-31 Bobby Roode - Glorious DDT
F-32 Shinsuke Nakamura - Kinshasa Knee Strike
F-33 Drew McIntyre - Claymore
F-34 Aliyah - Arabian Night
F-35 Andrade "Cien" Almas - Running Double Knee Smash
F-36 Dean Ambrose - Lunatic Fringe Elbow Drop
F-37 No Way Jose - Fastball Punch
F-38 Ember Moon - Eclipse
F-39 Eric Young - Youngblood
F-40 Hideo Itami - Shotgun Kick
F-41 Nikki Cross - Fisherman's Neckbreaker
F-42 Billie Kay - Big Boot
F-43 Tye Dillinger - Tye Breaker
F-44 Buddy Murphy - Murphy's Law
F-45 Peyton Royce - Bridging Fisherman's Suplex
F-46 The Authors of Pain - The Last Chapter
F-47 The Revival - Shatter Machine
F-48 TM-61 - Thunder Valley
F-49 The Hype Bros. - Hype Ryder
F-50 #DIY - Meeting in the Middle
John Cena Tribute (Part 4) Set Checklist
32 John Cena - Defeats The Rock for the WWE Championship
33 John Cena - Wins his Third World Heavyweight Championship
34 John Cena - Defeats Bray Wyatt at WrestleMania 30
35 John Cena - Defeats Bray Wyatt in a Last Man Standing Match
36 John Cena - Wins the WWE World Heavyweight Championship in a Ladder Match
37 John Cena - Defeats Rusev for the United States Championship
38 John Cena - Defeats Rusev in a Russian Chain Match
39 John Cena - Defeats Rusev in an "I Quit" Match
40 John Cena - Defeats Seth Rollins for the United States Championship
Roster Updates Set Checklist
R-22 Dash Wilder - Raw
R-23 Jason Jordan - Raw
R-24 Maryse - Raw
R-25 The Miz - Raw
R-26 Mustafa Ali - Raw
R-27 Scott Dawson - Raw
R-28 Tony Nese - Raw
R-29 The New Day - SmackDown
R-30 Samir Singh - SmackDown
R-32 Tamina - SmackDown
R-33 Tye Dillinger - SmackDown
R-34 Dan Matha - NXT
R-35 Vanessa Borne - NXT
R-36 Gabriel Ealy - NXT
R-37 Kona Reeves - NXT
R-38 The Velveteen Dream - NXT
R-39 Steve Cutler - NXT
R-40 Uriel Ealy - NXT
Undertaker Tribute (Part 4) Set Checklist
31 Undertaker - Wins the World Heavyweight Championship
32 Undertaker - Defeats Edge for his Second World Heavyweight Championship
33 Undertaker - Defeats Shawn Michaels
34 Undertaker - Wins his Third World Heavyweight Championship
35 Undertaker - Forces Shawn Michaels to Retire
Fat Pack
36 Undertaker - Defeats Triple H in a No Holds Barred Match
37 Undertaker - Defeats Triple H in a Hell in a Cell Match
38 Undertaker - Defeats Bray Wyatt
39 Undertaker - Defeats Brock Lesnar
40 Undertaker - Defeats Shane McMahon in a Hell in a Cell Match
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Product Review
2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever Wrestling Product Review
Reviewed by Trey Treutel
Good: Stephanie McMahon and Triple H autographs; at least one signed card per box; fairly inexpensive break.
Bad: Very little to product beyond the hits; mostly sticker autographs; weak insert lineup.
The Bottom Line: While it does expand WWE's flagship product, it is fair to wonder the need for a Series 2 when it packs so little else. The main draw here is the (small) shot at on-card McMahon or Triple H autographs.
Card Design: 3.0/5.0
As the follow-up release, 2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever continues the base numbering, design (again with mostly dark backgrounds) and parallels from the initial WWE set. Variations are also back. In terms of design, there is little that is actually new.
Inserts include several batches of tribute cards and the Finishers and Signature Moves set, which uses a smoke/haze effect to border the image. As a flagship-type set, I would have liked to have seen a few more inserts and a bit more creativity. Many of these releases can feel somewhat stale given the very basic format, and that is more true for round two. Even the hit designs are nearly the same, except it's NXT TakeOver: San Antonio instead of Brooklyn, and Royal Rumble instead of SummerSlam.
Checklist: 3.75/5.0
Just as with the main 2017 Topps WWE set, TNF is at its strongest in the autograph checklist. The Stephanie McMahon and Triple H autographs are the clear standouts, and made even more appealing as both are hard-signed. Also quite rare, the triple autograph featuring Undertaker, Lesnar and Goldberg is all quality. The rest of the signers are mostly in the current and up-and-coming category, so the end result can be less appealing.
Value: 3.5/5.0
Priced in the $40-60 range at the time of this review, the lower box price and guaranteed autograph helps the value. While you are more likely to hit a weaker signer, the chance at McMahon and Triple H, plus several of the other stars, gives the potential value a nice bump, as well. Still, if you don't pull a bigger autograph, it can be difficult to even come close to the value paid. Other than that, you need a Kiss card or low-numbered parallel for any chance at a decent return.
The Fun Factor: 3.0/5.0
While the dark backgrounds again controlled the feel of the set for me, the amusing images offer something that can be enjoyable to dive into. The problem for me as a collector is that there is little else. Tons of base, one main insert and the Cena Tribute continuation is all there is other than the two hits. I need more to draw me in. Of all the licenses that Topps holds, WWE seems to be the one with the most potential for creativity as far as inserts and designs. Hopefully they can better tap into that for 2018 and beyond.
2017 Topps WWE Then Now Forever Wrestling Hit Gallery / NPN Info
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alec
some really cool autos in here, but Topps has completely killed the value of wrestling cards