2013-14 Topps Premier Gold Soccer Cards

There`s just not enough quality in the autograph checklist. And this is from a British Topps collector of baseball football and soccer. Admittedly I`m a bummed out Spurs fan (Bale) but at $200+ a box, there really should be a higher percentage of elite hits. And there are PLENTY of world class players in the EPL. Seems a little half-assed. Pele`s never ever played in England, wtf???

Where are the legendary coaches and ex players?

Fair enough, point to you on the Pelé Allen & Ginter jersey.

I also thought the same Portlaw, I know companies have said that one in the past, however this says on the front of the card:

‘Game used memorabilia’

And on the back of the card:

‘Used memorabilia of Pele’

To me that says that Topps has sold this as Game used memorabilia of Pele. As a collector I thought this would be one of the most important soccer cards ever released so understand my disappointment that the card is not.

As far as Pelé’s Topps A&G jersey cards go, I’m not aware of them being advertised as game-worn but your point is valid nonetheless as it would be nice if they were game-used rather than event-used as seems the case here. However to say that Topps’ previous upmarket soccer attempts have plummeted in value is just plain false as can be seen in the evidence provided in one of my posts above.

It could have been event worn. For example wore it at a football event in 2007 and not match worn

To Fernando
I am a collector and excitedly purchased a number of the Topps (AG) Pele cards.
When the first came through and the material was obviously not from Pele’s era I was beyond disappointed. The material looked wrong, it was synthetic and the pattern didn’t look like being of the era of a Pele international game jersey. The material did however match with a Brazil 2007 jersey.

When a collector acquires a game worn jersey card l don’t think its too much to expect that it originates from the footballer on the card. For me, this card is the latest in a string of disappointments, but you seem to be asking why I’m cross? Is it OK then for a game worn jersey card to have material which has no relevance to the player on the card? If you can find a match to this material with a pre 1971 Brazil jersey I’d be very pleased.

To Gerry Thompson: Why do you keep badmouthing Topps’ soccer products with your lies? – He’s on several message forums with the same anti-Topps comments, google it to see for yourself – What in the World did they do to you?

Another Pele card where it is not supposed to be.

Also the Pele (Topps AG) game worn relic card. Must be a Topps fake, the material is from a 2007 Brazilian jersey so how can it be when Pele retired from international football in 1971?

Actually this product will be available in the UK. This is according to some reliable posters over on a UK based card forum.

Thanks for the info. I very disappointed
as the premier league is bigger here but i can see why because this type of product has never been tried over here.

Will this be available in the UK? I am a big NFL fan and i have american football cards. The cards here are made for 6-11 year old kids and are cheap pieces of plastics. I have really wanted a product like this and i think it would sell in the UK. If it isn’t sold over here i will be every disappointed

The price is bad but the set good

Your point about parallels is a valid one, I’m concerned about that as well since Topps went way too far with the parallels in 2013 MLS and the supply quickly outgrew the demand. But one must also keep in mind that the Premier League is far more popular than MLS. Also there isn’t a great supply of EPL autos out there so as long as Topps doesn’t overproduce then the value of the cards should hold up.

The product mix of the upcoming Topps soccer release follows the same pattern as MLS with multiple parallel cards, I think on my last count there were 8 different variations of parallels of some kind for each card released! this kind of ruins a special being special.

At $20 pack this product has a greater height to fall from than the recent Topps MLS cards price collapse.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-TOPPS-MLS-KITS-CHRIS-ROLFE-SOCCER-JERSEY-RELIC-CARD-CHICAGO-FIRE-GAME-USED-/290979197534?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item43bfb6325e

Topps MLS soccer cards have poor resale value, not soccer in general and especially not Topps Premier League cards.

I should have been more specific and made clear that I’m only referring to Topps’ Premier League products (Which is what this upcoming product is about) and not Topps MLS which I’m well aware it has been a massive failure in terms of secondary market value.

Topps has pretty much killed MLS autograph card’s values by oversaturating with their infinite parallels and such. But then again that is MLS and it can in no way compare to the Premier League which arguably the best league in the World.

In any case here are some links to numbers which support my assertion that Topps’ Premier League cards do have solid value. These are all from ebay some of which I actually sold myself.

$102.50 Michael Owen auto: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Owen-2003-Topps-Premier-Gold-Legends-Signature-Auto-/380678805718?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item58a23998d6

$80.95 Kieron Dyer auto: http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/RATM1986/2002toppsautographdyer_zps5530e225.jpg

$69.99 Juninho Paulista auto: http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/RATM1986/2004toppsautographjuninhopaulista_zps367f01ca.jpg

$22.50 Titus Bramble auto: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Topps-Premier-Gold-TITUS-BRAMBLE-Autograph-/200937912688?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item2ec8d53970

$20.50 Claus Jensen auto: http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Topps-2004-Premier-Gold-Authentic-Autograph-auto-Claus-Jensen-Charlton-59-1000-/200942384682?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item2ec919762a

$16.05 Matt Collins auto: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matt-Collins-2003-Topps-Premier-Gold-Rising-Star-Auto-/350859781928?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item51b0df6728

$9.99 Jermaine Johnson auto: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Topps-Premier-Gold-Jermaine-Johnson-Autograph-/261235502501?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item3cd2d96da5

$40.89 Matt Elliott jersey: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Topps-Premier-Gold-Authentic-Game-Worm-Shirt-MATT-ELLIOTT-1-72-/200937911381?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item2ec8d53455

$26.00 Matt Holland jersey: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Topps-Premier-Gold-Authentic-Game-Worm-Shirt-MATT-HOLLAND-1-72-/200937911197?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item2ec8d5339d

$25.00 Mark Kinsella jersey: http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/RATM1986/2002toppsjerseykinsella_zps0ef96b4c.jpg

$19.99 Michael Owen jersey 1: http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/RATM1986/2005toppsjerseymichaelowen_zps35ccc0f8.jpg

$19.99 Michael Owen jersey 2: http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/RATM1986/2005toppsjerseymowen_zpsd876c587.jpg

$14.50 Michael Owen jersey 3: http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/RATM1986/2005toppsjerseymowen_zps112f88fb.jpg

Keep in mind that most of these cards are not of superstar players, many of them are even “scrubs” yet the lowest valued card is a $9.99 autograph card.

Topps soccer resale values are proven to be notoriously poor, that is why others provide the proof/facts with links about 90% drop in Topps soccer autograph and patch values.

With Topps Pele relics going for $10, this is a worry.
“If the price is very cheap then it is almost certainly a fake” – David Russell

The guy(s) who are posting the links are well off base with their ridiculous comments. First off Topps’ previous mid to higher-end releases have held up well in the value department. Autos and jersey cards of even “scrubs” sell fairly well.Also, Futera are well known to produce fake autograph cards. For those who aren’t aware, google it. In fact I suspect one of the person(s) commenting on here may be a notorious Futera shill who goes around badmouthing Topps products.

As for the product itself I honestly think it has a chance to be really great. As long as they keep autos/relics of the scrubs from teams like Cardiff, Palace, Norwich and Hull to a minimum and give the people the big names they want, then this will be a success. The preliminary auto checklist floating around on the internet right now is a promising start but needs some more star power with the likes of Rooney, Suárez, Chicharito and Özil yet to sign on to the product.

My 2˘.

Topps has been releasing upmarket Premier League Soccer cards with autographs and relic cards for many years, this is just a few of the checklists, there are more.

http://www.soccercardindex.com/checklists/Topps-Authentic-Premier-Gold-2010-2011-checklist.pdf

http://www.soccercardindex.com/checklists/topps_Premier_Gold_2007_checklist.pdf

http://www.soccercardindex.com/checklists/topps_Premier_stars_2004_2005_checklist.pdf

http://www.soccercardindex.com/checklists/Topps_Premier_gold_2004_checklist.pdf

http://www.soccercardindex.com/presentation/topps_premier_gold_2003.htm

http://www.soccercardindex.com/checklists/topps_Premier_Gold_2002_checklist.pdf

Collectors have got their fingers burnt with Topps’ attempts at serious soccer releases, not just because values are poor anyway but Topps discounts their soccer cards soon after release which makes what we’re holding worse. Most serious soccer card collectors have moved on to the other brands (Panini, Futera and Upper Deck historically), these other cards, both feature the top footballers playing in England and seem to hold their values reasonably well

The above 2 comments are a little unfair to Topps. Whilst I agree that the end result of collecting Topps upmarket soccer collections is as said above, a little more information needs to be added to give Topps credit with soccer collections where it is due.
Topps openly promotes that its Soccer success is with the 6 – 10 year old age group, and in that target group Topps are very successful with their soccer cards. Later this year they are completing a major tour here in the UK for English Premier League Soccer cards with their Moshi Monsters.

However I can still only give Topps a 1 star as they are having an identity crisis if they believe by repeating what they have done for some 15 years failing with serious Soccer cards that this time it will be any different.

I Have collected Topps Premium Soccer for 12 years, this is one collection that I will not be pre ordering.
Why ?
1) The top footballers in the world are no longer in the English Premier Laegue (Messi, Neymar etc…).
2) Topps ALWAYS dumps soccer after you and I buy them. For example, this was sold for $35 by Topps then they sold through their Topps Ebay shop for $3
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Topps-Authentics-Signed-Ashley-Cole-Topps-Total-Football-sticker-2009-10-/350836110879?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Autographs_CV&hash=item51af76361f
3) The pack break is a complete value failure. At $20 a pack and the top memorabilia/relic card you can expect to get is a Pele at $10
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PELE-2013-Allen-Ginter-Game-Used-/141043829548?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20d6de0b2c
but most probably a 99 cent card
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Steven-Lenhart-2013-Topps-MLS-Game-Worn-Jersey-Relic-Card-/261260114112?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item3cd450f8c0
The highest value autograph footballer playing in the Premier League right now (and he is expected to be leaving soon ) is Bale, Topps Authentic autograph goes for $9
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Topps-authentic-autographGareth-Bale-mint-/281143671028?pt=UK_SportsMemorabilia_Football_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item417577f8f4
As for a special hit, lets say a 1 of 1, the latest from Topps Soccer are going for $3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Topps-MLS-Soccer-Walter-Vilchez-Black-Printing-Plate-1-1-167-/151094577605?pt=US_Hockey_Trading_Cards&hash=item232df049c5
This is a most definite sit on the sidelines collection, wait for the Ebay bargains.

Topps tried upmarket soccer for many years previous, values crashed, Topps dumped product, prepare for same.

You can keep the cards of the back up keeper from Crystal Palace and jersey relics of the defensive backs from Sunderland. It’s like getting a jersey card of any current Houston Astros player. I’ll take a few more RVP, Suarez and Ba. Let me know when you want to trade. Topps just needs to make a world’s top 200 set and we’d be all good.

The EPL has 20 clubs. On a game day, this means that 16 players per club are on the team. That’s 320 players. This set includes 100 players, and its over $200/box? What’s the point? Do I need another Robin Van Persie card? This seems more like a money-grab than a real attempt to sell soccer cards to soccer card collectors…

Looks like $200+ for a box. I’ll still partake.

Mike: Love it or hate it there is big money in the sport. Just check out how much NBC bid to get the rights to the EPL. Soccer stars are international cultural icons and the EPL is loaded with them. Now, if Topps would include La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 and Bundesliga top players, you’d have a buying frenzy aht that price point. This product will move and move quickly. Just check out the Robin van Persie and Pele autos in the Ginter product.

So excited for this! Exactly what I’ve wanted from the soccer hobby. Hopefully <$150 a box.